Willett Hot Springs backpack trip...

topic posted Wed, March 22, 2006 - 9:50 AM by  J
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Looking for fun folks that want to backpack to Willett Hot Springs, a 9 mile walk to a 105 degree tub, as a just reward for our efforts~
The trailhead is about an hour's drive from Ojai and the wildflowers will be blooming, as we mostly walk alongside the Sespe River to get there. I'm thinking April 8-9 or 15-16. My favorite backpack to- natural hot springs trip!
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  • Re: Willett Hot Springs backpack trip...

    Wed, March 22, 2006 - 10:49 AM
    I would probalby be up for it either weekend.

    If you like, I have Good Friday off (April 14th) so we could even meet at the trailhead on Thursday night and walk a portion of the way in at night. That would give us three nights out.

    The lupines and poppies are already starting to bloom so it should be great either weekend.
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    Wed, March 22, 2006 - 2:40 PM
    Can I tag along? Can you give me more intel on this location? Coordinates or some proper names? I want to look it up. This sounds a lot like Sespe hot spring. Check out my excerpt below. Is this it?

    Peter

    Excerpt from:
    Hot Springs and Hot Pools of the Southwest by Marjorie Gersh-Young
    ISBN 1-890880-05-1
    Page 157

    Near the Sespe Condor Sanctuary.

    A remote, pristine hot spring river located in the rugged, desert mountains of a designated wilderness area. Elevation 2800 feet. Open all year, subject to flash flooding and Forest Service closures.

    Natural mineral water flows out of the side of a mountain and several other sources at 185 degrees, cooling as it flows through a series of shallow, volunteer-built, river-rock soaking pools. Clothing Optional.

    There are no services on the premises. Access is via a steep 9 mile hiking trail from Mutau Flat. Once on Mutau Flat road follow the road until it splits, over 3 miles. Take the right fork heading uphill and then back down to another creek. The road forks right again and the trail continues west for another 3 miles. When the road splits again, take the right fork to the pools.

    HOrses and mules are also allowed on the trails. A Forest Service permit is requires to enter the area at any time. Be sure to inquire at the Los Padres National Forest office about fire season closures, flood warning,s and the adequacy of your preparations for packing in and packing out. Make sure to get a map!

    GPS: N 34 35.680, W 118 59.870



    PS
    I also asked everyone for a Remington Hot Springs Trip. All the info is in that thread. I've got the topo maps for Sespe and Remington so let's get together.
    • Re: Willett Hot Springs backpack trip...

      Wed, March 22, 2006 - 3:02 PM
      Hi Peter,

      Of course you can tag along. The more the merrier. If you can get Good Friday off work you could hike in with us on Thursday night. If our friend Alan goes, he'll be hiking in either Friday night or Saturday morning.

      Not many folks know about Willett H.S. since, until fairly recently, it was located on a private inholding within the national forest lands. Sespe Hot Springs is about 7 miles away from Willett.

      It's been a few years since I last visited Sespe Hot Springs, but they were really nice when I was there. Very little use due to the difficulty in getting there. The trails can be in poor condition since they are no longer maintained due to budget cutbacks. The only downside to Sespe Hot Springs is that there is no shade anywhere near the hot springs and you'll end up with a bad sunburn unless you're slathering yourself in sunscreen frequently. Depending on the time of year, recent rains, and other conditions, by moving a few rocks around you can mix the cool water of the creek with the super hot spring waters to acheive good soaking conditions. The water at the source is way too hot to deal with, but you can create a pretty neat wet sauna by using your freestanding tent fly near the source. The best campsites in Hot Springs Canyon are close to the Sespe River.

      If the road to the Condor Refuge is open again above Fillmore, hiking from Dough Flats is probably an easier route into Sespe Hot Springs, although it is about five miles longer. The entire area is loaded with ticks, with the worst months from late April to November.
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    Mon, March 27, 2006 - 11:12 AM
    Here's what I found about Willett Hot Springs

    Near the Sespe Condor Sanctuary
    Hard to find, remote hot spring nestled in a beautiful canyon above the remnants of an abandoned ranch. Elevation 3300 feet. Open all year; subject to flash flooding and Forest Service Closures.

    Natural mineral water at 108 flows from numerous places out of the canyon walls and is collected into PVC pipes. One is used for a shower and the other high-flow-rate pipe fills and ten- by two-foot deep soaking tub that was helicoptered in years ago. Clothing optional.

    There are no services on the premises. However, a pack group still maintains a drinking water spring, corral barbecue area and several of hte cabins once used by the ranch. Access is via an easy, mostly flat, ten mile trail from Lion campground. Horses and mules are allowed on the trail. A forest service fire permit as well as Adventure Pass are required to enter the area and park at the trailhead.

    N 34 34.920, W 119 02.640

    This hike is going to be hardcore! Please post to this thread schedule developments so I can ask for those days off. There's a good chance I can get these days off, but I need more definite info as the time gets closer. Thanks guys.
    • Re: Willett Hot Springs backpack trip...

      Mon, March 27, 2006 - 3:20 PM
      Yeah, that's it. The flash flood warning is very well founded. I've seen it when the river is really running and have been surprised by where the recent high water marks are. Contrary to the description, the trail is NOT mostly flat. It might appear that way looking at the way it follows the contour lines down the Sespe, but I can assure you that even though it's fairly well graded, there are still quite a few hills between Lions Camp and the Hot Springs. Ten miles seems like it's a bit of an overstatement, since I believe it to be more like eight or nine. It just feels longer due to all the undulations the trail takes as it snakes it's way along.

      Also, the leader of the horsepacking group, Tony Alvis died in the landslide at La Conchita a year or so ago trying to save other people and property. We were up there at the springs a while back and it looks like his work is being carried on, and the spring box had been cleaned out at the ranch.

      John and I both have Friday the 14th off, so we'll probably be meeting up on Thursday night around 9:00 PM at the Lion's Camp trailhead. The forest service revamped access to the area recently and there is a new parking lot, restroom, and trail access about half a mile away from the old Lower Lion's Campground where the trail used to start. That may be where the extra milage came from if your description is a really recent one. The forest service also re-routed the first portion of the trail recently so as not to impact the endangered Arroyo Toad.

      Anyway, we usually hike a couple of hours at night using our headlamps since the first part of the trail is just a fire road and fairly wide. There is only one river crossing that must be done at night, and that is fairly soon after you leave the trailhead. Watershoes are a must, and trekking poles help with the crossings. Depending on how the trail has fared during the rains will determine the amount of difficulty in making it to the hot springs, and how many times we will need to cross the river since there are sectons of the trail that is well below the high water marks along the river.

      Oh yeah, everyone is invited!
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        Re: Willett Hot Springs backpack trip...

        Mon, March 27, 2006 - 6:00 PM
        I look forward to this hike, but given your schedules, it's likely I can't make it. However, in case I'm able to get away... can you tell me what I should bring on a hike of this magnitude? I'm thinking of bringing MREs, what do you think? Do you guys bring a small folding spade shovel for when it's time to bomb nagasaki?

        Also, can you bring your GPS receiver with you to measure the hike and mark the hot spring location? I finally got to do Placerita and got to the waterfalls. I have the entire track saved on my PC. If you want a copy of the track let me know. It's so cool, that I can record these kinds of things.
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          Tue, March 28, 2006 - 11:28 AM
          Well, we'll be hangin' at the hot springs. I probably will not bring either of my GPS units so I won't get an exact fix, but it is shown on the 7.5 minute topo.

          Bring whatever YOU like to eat. For weekend trips, we've been known to bring in real food since we're used to carrying the extra weight. I won't even get into telling you about our Filet Mignon & Lobster dinners 16 miles into the Sierras.... or the pony kegs we've hauled.....

          We usually carry one of those orange plastic trowesl or use a rock or stick to dig our cat holes. A shovel would be overkill. Try to keep your pack as light as possible since it's a bit of a walk.

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